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Feel free to discuss the ending of Via Domus in this section in the comments.
What did you think of the ending?
Thanks to Sergio for the video of the ending.
Thanks to Stuart for the text
At the end of the game you are pointed in the direction of a boat that will get you off the island, and given some directions from Juliet. When you get to the dock a boat is heading towards the boat that will get you off the island, but before they can blow up the boat, locke shoots them and blews there boat up.
Then Elliot leaves the island on the ship and as he leaves, he looks up to see the plane he was on come crashing down towards the island and then the next scene is Elliots eye, and he wakes up to see Lisa running towards him asking if he's ok (When she had been killed before).
Ah, I guess the move from the homepage to this forum deleted the other comments? Oh well. This is following up on the idea I mentioned there about one's island actions/situations mirroring one's off-island actions.
The producers said in the latest podcast that TIME TRAVEL specifically won't alter futures. I'm guessing everyone's actions on the island is potentially altering their off-island life events. Like I said before, Elliot takes the shrapnel to save Kate and the result is Lisa is alive in the next loop.
I also wanted to say I think Locke's helping Elliot was cool. I think Ben and Locke are both good (on the show) but acting on some greater knowledge of the situation, that requires them to manipulate the other islanders the way they do.
Or perhaps Locke knows Elliot redeemed himself and is acting as the island's gatekeeper of sorts.
I was thinking locke was out of character, why would he let Eliott leave, unless he knew that he wouldn't get off the island? Was that actually smokey? Wouldn't Locke had been at the hatch since this would be around the end of season 2?
Pretty wicked though, that the ending would have Eliott show up back on the island, could he have strayed off the 325 bearing? Thus having the side affects? I did notice the lack of any scratches when he woke up on the island.
I was hoping that the game was going to give free reign to explore the island throughly and not be so restrictive. The game was very short too.
My comments weren't that important so I won't bother copying them over. I just had a weird thought about the ending. Maybe Elliot actually died in the Black Rock and everything after was a vision of some sort? Kind of like his subconscious coming to terms with his past decisions and him becoming "reborn" in a metaphysical sense? Kind of like Mr. Eko standing up to the Smoke Monster.
Because, I mean, if you played the ending more than once (which you kind of had to do unless you played via a walk-through) you know that the blast from the dynamite kills Kate if you don't stand in front of it. How does Elliot survive then? I think maybe his consciousness lived on and sought redemption for his poor choices as it came to Lisa and set a scenario where he could get closure. This would explain why Locke's actions seemed so out of character because it wasn't actually him.
Well, maybe I will post this one in here because it is another theory I have in regard to the weird ending:
Maybe his experiences on the Island were more of a "daydream" a la "The Devil's Advocate"? Maybe in that one split-second where he was hiding it that room, he experienced all of the events in the game and then made the correct choice to intervene and save Lisa's life.
The ending let me down if only because it can't be considered canon. I was upset with the overall game play but wished that the game would at least give us some more clues as to what is going on on the island. A few moments really got me like when elliot was locked in the gun closet and when he used his lighter to light up the room Lisa appeared before him. I think they could have played with that a little more and really fleshed it out to make the game more intriguing.
Being able to explore the Swan and the Hydra was a treat. We finally got to see what was behind the walls in the Swan and seeing more of the Hydra was interesting because the animal cages shed a new light to why we find Ben in a veterinary hospital in the future.
As for the ending I don't really know what to think of it. It clearly shows that Elliot either travels back in time and its changed or the entirety of the game was a dream (both of which we were told were not a part of the show or what is really going on). It almost needed one more scene or a voice over to really hit home what they intended with the ending. I already know this is an alternate reality setting for the game but it would have been nice if they actually explained more of what they were trying to accomplish.
heavyraines- I like that. Very insightful. I wonder why the re-crash, though if he's dead? Maybe he died in the first crash and the whole island experience was his purgatory-like place. I guess the re-crash could mean he's got more bad decisions to correct, maybe.
Mary- Maybe the re-crash was just his mind "resetting" allowing him to relive his Island events without any regrets so he can die in peace.
I don't know. It's all theory at this point. Even though it isn't canon, I would like to see Damon give an interview about what his intentions were with the ending. I don't think there will be any problems with that since the game isn't supposed to give any hints to the show. If he doesn't want to answer any of these questions, I would interpret that as meaning this ending has more to do with the show than they would like to let us believe.
I'd bet they purposely wrote an ending that was open to multiple interpretations, none really being more correct than another. I think they've already said that the series ending itself will have two supportable ways of interpreting it all. I'm guessing it'll be the science/faith thing or more specifically a conspiracy/supernatural thing.
I'd like to hear Lindeloff comment on the ending. Its hard to believe that he'd come up with an ending that is completely incompatible with the rest of the show, even if it isn't part of the canon. Am I making any sense here?
I wouldn't be surprised if they officially say 'No, it answers nothing from the show, including the island' just to keep the focus on the show and keep this discussion at an impasse.
Semantically speaking, like they say, it really doesn't answer anything from the canon at all. It does however, pose a ton of questions. I wouldn't be surprised if our questions are answered at a later date within the canon, totally unrelated to Via Domus.
This may be an ending we look back on at some point and say 'Ooooooh thats probably what happenned!'
Well, in mobisode #3 - Ben said the following to Jack while they played Chess:
Well it's not entirely up to me. If the Island doesn't want you to leave, it won't let you.
Could it be that Elliot has a bigger role to play in the island. I don't think that they would pull another Nikki/Paulo and introduce a new Lostie into Lost.
Does Lisa look like someone we may see soon on the island?
They made sure that in the ending we could hear Michael calling out for Walt.
1miletogo- I think that, since this game isn't canon, any hopes of the game tying into the show in any way are futile. If it happens, great. But it is more likely that this is a one-off game to try and capitalize on the brand and they have no intention of including this into the show.
Because, if we are to believe Darlton and JJ, they have the show mapped out for the rest of the series. How could they have known the story of this game and the character of Elliot when they planned it out?
What about the blast map in the swan? Can the new layer seen in the game be considered canon? On the season 3 blu-ray disks, they mention that there is another layer to the blast map that we haven't seen.
Then in via domus, we are able to see the different layer with the ultraviolet light. Here is a location with the new blast map notations: http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=45296&sid=4a7563b3aaf822759a486855d54b3510
Could there be more easter eggs in the game that we have not found? Plus how do you get the point listing in the PS3 version?
1miletogo- Maybe the locations are canon but not the events? The reactor certainly stands out as something that could pop up in the show but I'm not sure how much content can come from it.
What do you mean about point listing? I played through the PS3 version and I have no idea what you are talking about.
heavyraines - I agree about some of the locations, the on island storyline doesn't seem to fit as well. I found it interesting that Locke was at the end, since in the show he was most likely at the Swan at that time.
Can we assume that the swan implosion is the event that we see at the end of the game that appears to transition to the 815 crash.
As for the point system, on the blog here it shows a point tally for different actions in the game. I don't know if that is from the PC version or not.
My theory is that the end of Via Domus represents the end of a certain iteration of the time loop that is going on on the Island, let just say for example the 24th iteration, and the beginning of the next iteration, that would be the 25th one following the previous example. But the events in the loop are not always perfectly the same and Via Domus Ending tell us this truth very well with Lisa being alive in the beginning of the next iteration of the loop. What we are viewing in the Lost TV show however I believe is the LAST iteration of the loop; near the end of the show I think the loop will be broke off, or perhaps it already happened when Desmond managed to turn the failsafe key (this would explain better 4x01 episode title "The beginning of the end": the loop has been broken, there finally will be and end). So I don't think TV show will end with the initial shot of Jack's eye but I do believe that a time loop has going on many times on the Island and Via Domus Game and Ending represents a certain iteration of this loop and the beginning of the next one.
Great Ending I Predicyted Desmond turning the failsafe key would cause a rift in time and caused Flight 815 to crash back in may 2007.
As I demonstatred in my Lost Loops Movie listed on this site in the fan fiction section http://lostfanfic.blogspot.com/2007/07/lost-loops-by-spooky.html
A number of Of my early Lost movies derpicted a Loop caused by the failsafe key :)
this game sucked. The ending was cool but it took me 4 hours to beat the game. I think the PS3 version was shorter than the others that you guys are talking about. I never saw the Hydra Station. I also never saw hurley or Mr Eko in those flash backs but i guess i could have missed them. I would agree that what we see after the Black rock seen is just a vision. If Kate gets killed by the shrapnel, then how does Elliot survive? He would even be closer to the explosion. It could have something to do with the redeming qualities of the island. Maybe Elliot was given a set of the same choices and this time he sacraficied himself instead of remaing silent. Not really sure but the game sucked for the PS3 anyway.
I want to shoot myself now. I was really dissapointed in the game play, I thought it could have been more challanging. The fuse puzzles were just annoying, no real fun in it. Then the ending was just icing on the cake. I wish there would have been more to it.
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I thought, WTH!
But loved it
Ah, I guess the move from the homepage to this forum deleted the other comments? Oh well. This is following up on the idea I mentioned there about one's island actions/situations mirroring one's off-island actions.
The producers said in the latest podcast that TIME TRAVEL specifically won't alter futures. I'm guessing everyone's actions on the island is potentially altering their off-island life events. Like I said before, Elliot takes the shrapnel to save Kate and the result is Lisa is alive in the next loop.
I also wanted to say I think Locke's helping Elliot was cool. I think Ben and Locke are both good (on the show) but acting on some greater knowledge of the situation, that requires them to manipulate the other islanders the way they do.
Or perhaps Locke knows Elliot redeemed himself and is acting as the island's gatekeeper of sorts.
Sorry about that, I had a Monday afternoon brain freeze and posted it on the Homepage rather than the Via Domus section :(
You can find the old comments here if you need to copy and paste them back here.
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Sorry for any inconvenience.
I was thinking locke was out of character, why would he let Eliott leave, unless he knew that he wouldn't get off the island? Was that actually smokey? Wouldn't Locke had been at the hatch since this would be around the end of season 2?
Pretty wicked though, that the ending would have Eliott show up back on the island, could he have strayed off the 325 bearing? Thus having the side affects? I did notice the lack of any scratches when he woke up on the island.
I was hoping that the game was going to give free reign to explore the island throughly and not be so restrictive. The game was very short too.
My comments weren't that important so I won't bother copying them over. I just had a weird thought about the ending. Maybe Elliot actually died in the Black Rock and everything after was a vision of some sort? Kind of like his subconscious coming to terms with his past decisions and him becoming "reborn" in a metaphysical sense? Kind of like Mr. Eko standing up to the Smoke Monster.
Because, I mean, if you played the ending more than once (which you kind of had to do unless you played via a walk-through) you know that the blast from the dynamite kills Kate if you don't stand in front of it. How does Elliot survive then? I think maybe his consciousness lived on and sought redemption for his poor choices as it came to Lisa and set a scenario where he could get closure. This would explain why Locke's actions seemed so out of character because it wasn't actually him.
Well, maybe I will post this one in here because it is another theory I have in regard to the weird ending:
Maybe his experiences on the Island were more of a "daydream" a la "The Devil's Advocate"? Maybe in that one split-second where he was hiding it that room, he experienced all of the events in the game and then made the correct choice to intervene and save Lisa's life.
Can anyone confirm that the story in this game is not canon? With a viable link? Thanks.
Here ya go, jwac: http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/006458.html
AMAZING!
The ending let me down if only because it can't be considered canon. I was upset with the overall game play but wished that the game would at least give us some more clues as to what is going on on the island. A few moments really got me like when elliot was locked in the gun closet and when he used his lighter to light up the room Lisa appeared before him. I think they could have played with that a little more and really fleshed it out to make the game more intriguing.
Being able to explore the Swan and the Hydra was a treat. We finally got to see what was behind the walls in the Swan and seeing more of the Hydra was interesting because the animal cages shed a new light to why we find Ben in a veterinary hospital in the future.
As for the ending I don't really know what to think of it. It clearly shows that Elliot either travels back in time and its changed or the entirety of the game was a dream (both of which we were told were not a part of the show or what is really going on). It almost needed one more scene or a voice over to really hit home what they intended with the ending. I already know this is an alternate reality setting for the game but it would have been nice if they actually explained more of what they were trying to accomplish.
heavyraines- I like that. Very insightful. I wonder why the re-crash, though if he's dead? Maybe he died in the first crash and the whole island experience was his purgatory-like place. I guess the re-crash could mean he's got more bad decisions to correct, maybe.
Mary- Maybe the re-crash was just his mind "resetting" allowing him to relive his Island events without any regrets so he can die in peace.
I don't know. It's all theory at this point. Even though it isn't canon, I would like to see Damon give an interview about what his intentions were with the ending. I don't think there will be any problems with that since the game isn't supposed to give any hints to the show. If he doesn't want to answer any of these questions, I would interpret that as meaning this ending has more to do with the show than they would like to let us believe.
I'd bet they purposely wrote an ending that was open to multiple interpretations, none really being more correct than another. I think they've already said that the series ending itself will have two supportable ways of interpreting it all. I'm guessing it'll be the science/faith thing or more specifically a conspiracy/supernatural thing.
I'd like to hear Lindeloff comment on the ending. Its hard to believe that he'd come up with an ending that is completely incompatible with the rest of the show, even if it isn't part of the canon. Am I making any sense here?
I wouldn't be surprised if they officially say 'No, it answers nothing from the show, including the island' just to keep the focus on the show and keep this discussion at an impasse.
Semantically speaking, like they say, it really doesn't answer anything from the canon at all. It does however, pose a ton of questions. I wouldn't be surprised if our questions are answered at a later date within the canon, totally unrelated to Via Domus.
This may be an ending we look back on at some point and say 'Ooooooh thats probably what happenned!'
I love Lost.
Tim- I agree, I love LOST. And I love juice. I love juice!
Well, in mobisode #3 - Ben said the following to Jack while they played Chess:
Well it's not entirely up to me. If the Island doesn't want you to leave, it won't let you.
Could it be that Elliot has a bigger role to play in the island. I don't think that they would pull another Nikki/Paulo and introduce a new Lostie into Lost.
Does Lisa look like someone we may see soon on the island?
They made sure that in the ending we could hear Michael calling out for Walt.
1miletogo- I think that, since this game isn't canon, any hopes of the game tying into the show in any way are futile. If it happens, great. But it is more likely that this is a one-off game to try and capitalize on the brand and they have no intention of including this into the show.
Because, if we are to believe Darlton and JJ, they have the show mapped out for the rest of the series. How could they have known the story of this game and the character of Elliot when they planned it out?
What about the blast map in the swan? Can the new layer seen in the game be considered canon? On the season 3 blu-ray disks, they mention that there is another layer to the blast map that we haven't seen.
Then in via domus, we are able to see the different layer with the ultraviolet light. Here is a location with the new blast map notations:
http://www.4815162342.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=45296&sid=4a7563b3aaf822759a486855d54b3510
Could there be more easter eggs in the game that we have not found? Plus how do you get the point listing in the PS3 version?
1miletogo- Maybe the locations are canon but not the events? The reactor certainly stands out as something that could pop up in the show but I'm not sure how much content can come from it.
What do you mean about point listing? I played through the PS3 version and I have no idea what you are talking about.
heavyraines - I agree about some of the locations, the on island storyline doesn't seem to fit as well. I found it interesting that Locke was at the end, since in the show he was most likely at the Swan at that time.
Can we assume that the swan implosion is the event that we see at the end of the game that appears to transition to the 815 crash.
As for the point system, on the blog here it shows a point tally for different actions in the game. I don't know if that is from the PC version or not.
wah....When i walked up to the dock, and got near the boat the credits rolled up
???
sfj3- Seriously? There's a whole scene after that. Maybe you got a bad copy of the game. Was it PC, XBox360, or PS3?
At least you can check the ending out on YouTube.
No joke, that was a waste of 5 hours of my life.
Thank god this ending was used for the game!
I'd be pretty p***ed if that was the ending for Lost.
My theory is that the end of Via Domus represents the end of a certain iteration of the time loop that is going on on the Island, let just say for example the 24th iteration, and the beginning of the next iteration, that would be the 25th one following the previous example.
But the events in the loop are not always perfectly the same and Via Domus Ending tell us this truth very well with Lisa being alive in the beginning of the next iteration of the loop.
What we are viewing in the Lost TV show however I believe is the LAST iteration of the loop; near the end of the show I think the loop will be broke off, or perhaps it already happened when Desmond managed to turn the failsafe key (this would explain better 4x01 episode title "The beginning of the end": the loop has been broken, there finally will be and end).
So I don't think TV show will end with the initial shot of Jack's eye but I do believe that a time loop has going on many times on the Island and Via Domus Game and Ending represents a certain iteration of this loop and the beginning of the next one.
Great Ending
I Predicyted Desmond turning the failsafe key would cause a rift in time and caused Flight 815 to crash back in may 2007.
As I demonstatred in my Lost Loops Movie listed on this site in the fan fiction section
http://lostfanfic.blogspot.com/2007/07/lost-loops-by-spooky.html
A number of Of my early Lost movies derpicted a Loop caused by the failsafe key :)
this game sucked. The ending was cool but it took me 4 hours to beat the game. I think the PS3 version was shorter than the others that you guys are talking about. I never saw the Hydra Station. I also never saw hurley or Mr Eko in those flash backs but i guess i could have missed them. I would agree that what we see after the Black rock seen is just a vision. If Kate gets killed by the shrapnel, then how does Elliot survive? He would even be closer to the explosion. It could have something to do with the redeming qualities of the island. Maybe Elliot was given a set of the same choices and this time he sacraficied himself instead of remaing silent. Not really sure but the game sucked for the PS3 anyway.
I want to shoot myself now. I was really dissapointed in the game play, I thought it could have been more challanging. The fuse puzzles were just annoying, no real fun in it. Then the ending was just icing on the cake. I wish there would have been more to it.